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Article on teacher discipling a student

So I'm arguing that the tactic of this teacher wasn't justified to fit the behaviour. Some youthworkers disagree. Thinking it is fine. Mother overreacted etc.

So this got me thinking. How do you handle discipline in your ministry setting?

We, as youthworkers, can learn how to discipline in a firm but loving matter. Cardboard and for 2hrs is a long time. Especially for a child.

Les Christie's Book How to Work with Rude, Obnoxious, and Apathetic Kids comes to mind - Positive discipline with youth.

The teacher could of had the kids come up with the rules, had the rules and communication with the parents etc. I'm sure when a letter goes home (If this is the child's first offense or not) saying little Johnny or Susie were talking and disruptive during class .....there would be reinforcement at home or Johnny had to talk with the principle about talking in class ....instead of being embarrassed, and having the school, school board, this upset parent, and media getting involved.

One of the things is talking justified? Maybe, maybe not?

Is 2hrs in a cardboard cubically and possible ridicule worth the punishment? I don't think so. There are other ways to isolate a child without having others bringing attention to them.

What sometimes we forget that discipline is suppose to positive not negative ...we are to be discipling.

Catch your students doing good, avoid the distractions, address the issue and child one on one. Have positive feedback.

One of the big things is we want immediate results. Some discipline issues take time, patience, and not a QUICK FIX answer.

The teacher needs to know how to handle her students. If she cannot control a student who is talking all the time and had to go to such measures; I'd think one needs to know what discipline is and is not.

The mother is just upset. Not dumb. The school is doing the best they can with the situation. Which will probably be to reprimand the teacher, and maybe transfer this student to a different classroom setting. There has been some damage done and hopefully it is repairable. The real issue is How does One Resolve Conflict?

What I am afraid is too many of us are quick to react, slow to listen, and be patient. I think this teacher reacted too quickly and the consequences don't fit the action.

I listed 2 resources from Les Christie,
Les Christie's book How to work with Rude, obnoxious, and Apathetic Kids (Good for student ministry)

With such things as reasons for problem behaviour, giving kids confidence, rules and guidelines, consequences, praise - catch them doing right, handling anger, getting rid of distractions, specific discipline methods, such as if kid is talking eye contact, move to a different spot, maybe this child has ADD or ADHD etc,

The Discipline Guide for Children's Ministry by Jody Capehart, Gordan West & Becki West.

Kids in God's Kingdom, Kids will be kids, discipline to the design of the child, common sense Do's and Dont's, The Extra Challenge - Kids with ADD, parents, teachers and partnering together.

I'm also thinking of the book Why Nobody Learns Much of Anything at Church and How to Fix it. by Thom and Joani Schultz. -maybe this child is not an audible learning maybe he can learn by innovation and active learning depending on his own learning or her own learning style. I think the educational field and church education needs to look closely at this idea of addressing the Kinetic, audible, and other types of learners.

The resource Assertive Discipline for Parents by Lee Canter and Marlene Canter is good as well.

In it it includes Take charge and be the Boss. Don't use ineffective responses, communicate assertively.

If minor (Such as talking)separate the child from the room or area and have them set away from the group by the number of minutes their age is if 3 -3 minutes etc.

I do like the discipline plan that is outlines

What specific behaviour child must change?

What are the consequences:

If this does not work, what next....

1st time misbehaves

How will you monitor the problem?

What will you keep track of?

Positive reinforcements for good behavior ....

Rules child to work on .....

Discipline problems at school ....

How will monitor?
What are the consequences?
What are positive consequences if child behaves at school?

So what are your thoughts? How do you do discipline and resolve conflict?

2 Responses to “Discipline”

  1. Blogger Aaron Geist 

    I have always had a hard time with discipline. I like being the good guy, not the punisher. I think it's an area that I'm growing in.

    One thing come to find is that some students don't have very much discipline at home or school, so it comes as a bit of a wake up for them when you actually follow through on disciplining them.

  2. Blogger Brian Eberly 

    Amazingly enough I have found that the students that I have been the hardest on (discipline wise) are the ones that I become the closest with.

    I believe disciple, properly carried out, creates a sense of security in the lives of students, especially with those that don't experience any kind of healthy discipline at home.

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